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Freedjom
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #1
Hello,

I'm searching people who practise a Wing Chun-methode, just to talk about the differencies bewteen your WC, and the WT of Leung Ting that I practise.For exemple, can anybody tell me the meaning of the rattan ring (solo exercise)??

reetings, Mark

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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #2
which is not really a very good way to prepare for it.
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #3
For me it makes not a lot of sense that the rattan ring can help you with the chi sao-training. As a fervent WT-practitioner and-instructor, I cannot imagine that the ring stays at the arms without pressing to the sides!or is the purpose different? Can you tell me a little more about it?the advantage?

Greetings, Mark

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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #4
Hopefully someone who uses these rings will post. As either it would tend to do what Mark is saying below (outward pressure)

Or you would have to develop extreme control to NOT do that but maintain extremely light outer surface contact, while continuing to develop forward energy.

Seems to me too much effort to do that at the expense of proper position. You want a tight closed circle with relaxed focused forward energy in chi sao. The rings seem to be counter to that.

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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #5
pressing toward yourself?

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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #6
Hi,

The rattan ring is actually not used, historically, for Chi Sao in WCK but as a means of developing splitting power. It would probably be counter productive to use it for Chi Sao, since the lines of force developed would not be the ones most useful in Luk Sao or any of the other platforms. YMMV.
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #7
Hi Mark,

I'm not sure about pressure, I think in terms of intent and nature (ie, all bridges in Luk Sao are punches and only assume Tan/Bong/Fook in response to the opponent) with a ring, if the reflex being trained was WCK, both hands should smash down the center due to lack of opposition, and that would render the ring pretty useless. Just MHO.
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #8
where you from david??
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #9
Who uses the rattan ring? I've seen it in pictures, but I've never had a teacher use it, in W. Cheung or F. Fong curricula.
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #10
OK, but the original intent is always to punch, and only when the opponent gives a pressure, the reflexes comes in play. But doesn't that means to train tan/bong/fook you need a certain pressure if not why using the reflexes? hands

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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago #11
Hey Rene!

Splitting like in Kan Sao? Or something more subtle?

David
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