WC vs JJ which art?

I have a little dilemma. I have done some research ( internet, books ,ect. ) and have decided on two possibilities Wing Chun ( there's a Wing Tsun dojo close to me ) or ju jitsu. I don't have any martial art background and am leaning more to the street effective self defense side, rather then the spiritual side. i was just wondering what your opinions are on which one is easier to pick up and apply on the street

Thanks

I'm not experienced in either one, but I've visited schools in both with the intetion of taking one or the other following my black belt in TKD. I've concluded from observing classes that JJ is much more practical for street-effective self-defense (that's pretty much all it is, in fact) and can be picked up fairly quickly, while Wing Chun is difficult to master. WC is also touted as an effective means of street self-defense, but it has some flaws (no grappling or groundfighting, no long-range fighting, all close-quarters). But then no MA is complete.

Check out schools in both and go with whichever your instinct tells you, but I've already decided that I like JJ better.

ju jitsu is a generic term for many wildly different styles.

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Depends. Is it Small Circle Jiu-Jitsu? Or BJJ? Or another brand of JiuJitsu? And BJJ is more sport than strict streetfighting art(hence,sport JiuJitsu).

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So BJJ(which is what I think you mean) is easy to pick up but WC is hard to master. So you are saying that BJJ is not hard to master? So anyone can be a blackbelt? Groovy! No wonder so many TKD schools offer it now.

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There is a reason WC has no long-range fighting aspects. WC is designed for close-up fighting. If that is what it wants to do,why sit back and fight from long range? It goes against the design. Its like buying a corvette and going off-road with it. And it has no groundfighting, but it has stand-up grappling.

Well,you don't seem to know about WC and the BJJ guys will show you quickly how easy it is to master.

And other kinds of jujitsu are more fat guys standing around practicing fingerlocks than STREETFIGHTING.

All of the 'street-effective' JJ stuff that I've seen (haven't seen any BJJ in real life though) is nothing but a joke. They all assume that you're going to be attacked by someone who doesn't know what they're doing and that they're going to react to everything you do to them. What you learn in Wing Chun can vary a lot from class to class. Some like forms and teaching blocking and defending at the same time, some like to just attack and attack non stop.

I've done this. You won't go far wrong. As you progress you will evolve and change. Your TKD will affect your Jujitsu & viceversa. You will know you've made it when you start using TKD to set up your Jujitsu and the reverse.

For what it's worth, WC was (supposedly) designed to be mastered in a shorter time than other kung-fu. To this end it has a relatively spartan vocabulary of moves, and 3 unarmed forms.

i only know a little about jj mostly its history, so i will avoid making my self look stupid and not comment on it at all. however i am aspiring young student of wing chun and feel that i know enough to give some advice. i find wing chun to be quite street effective. it's main principal is defence, and only fight when all other options are exhausted. this have cause some people to look at wing chun as a 'wussy' art because some techniques involve running away. the most important part of a confrontation is getting away unharmed and with as little damage to your attacker as possible. if you intend to go and start fights with people wing chun is not for you. i weight 155lbs for me to defeat a 250 lbs guy is unlikely if i try to block all his punches and fight back, in such a case a quick side kick to the knee might be used to disable him for enough time for me to escape. with smaller person i would not try to break his bones, unless it is the last alternative. often a simple wrist lock will cause an attacker to realise that further aggression is pointless. once in such a lock it would be easy to 'beat the shit out of a guy' but in wing chun this is looked down apon. sometimes a single strike to the ribs or jaw is enough to deter an opponent, so why continue beating on him? another factor when train in any ma is what that law thinks of it. if some one attacks you and you break his leg but had the skills to stop him with out any permanent damage you, the victim of the attack, could be facing a law suit and legal charges. What happens in the movie Con-Air is not to far from what could actually happen. though i said i would not talk about ju jitsu i will rain one point, it was the art of the samurai, not monks such as kung fu, it has much more aggressive tactics then wing chun which may get you into trouble.

though i said i would not talk about ju

Much of jiu jitsu's techniques are identical to much older grappling techniques found in kung fu. I wonder if this is a coincidence considering the origin of karate.

In any case, your samurai/monk comparison is not very true. WC may have origins in Shaolin, but is was mostly used outside of it by revolutionaries.

Further to the WC/JJ comparison, i found that grappling with JJ guys (i have some WC background), I found them somewhat 'stiff' and more into muscular force than leverage and sensitivity. So i could elude their submissions and put them off balance. But ultimately, i lacked their submission knowledge and got submitted by them.