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Alfredsfx
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Posted 1 Year, 8 Months ago #1
Has anyone noticed the remarkable similarities in concepts between Yi Chuan (Mind Fist) and Jeet Kune Do (Way of the Intercepting Fist)?

Did Bruce Lee have contact with Yi Chuan? If not, what would have happened if he had studied it?

Here are some concepts (from http://www.fongha.com/yiquan.htm ):

'Through these deceptively simple practices....<...> we strip our reflexive responses of all the excess baggage of learned techniques, preconceived notions, or unconscious habits of carriage, behavior, and self-armoring picked up over a lifetime of hard knocks.

'Through this practice, then, we allow our natural responses to whatever life sends our way to surface; in this, the ideas underlying Yiquan are very similar to those of Taoism and Zen. Yiquan helps us find the physical correlate to what in Taoism is called the Tao or way, that is the natural, appropriate response or course of action that is in harmony with all around us. The practice, and the physical and spiritual insights it offers, provides a firm center in a changeable world in which we are constantly bombarded with received ideas and ways of acting and being. Thus through the martial art of Yiquan, we can physically confirm and reinforce the essence of a life philosophy and spiritual path.

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To add, like Jeet Kune Do, Yi Chuan has no forms.

What do you (and especially Jeet Kune Do practitioners) think?

Alex

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Posted 1 Year, 8 Months ago #2
Intercepting Fist)?

Not really. I'd say the exact opposite. Bruce denounced things like the classical stances in martial arts. Yes, most have no martial relevance. But most have some kind of reason for being. A form of power developed through staticity.

Power through inaction. Bruce was more about fighting without fighting. But not all yi quan exponents are into the empty force stuff. Mostly due to the fact they are complete boneheads and carrying on meme's based on YZZ's misinterpreted quotes.

(snip)

Eh? I guess there's two kinds of people. Those that where shooken down for their lunch money and those that werent. I guess martial arts makes those that were more 'powerful'. Peshaw.

Just as science corrects the mistakes 'god' made. The un-natural approach to dealing with what 'life sends our way' is indifference.

Re anything is higly unevolved. All power comes from the mind. All power originates in the head. The maxim that 'the world revolves around me' is an understatement. The forces of nature are to be controlled and harnessed for ones self-intrest.

Gasp! Lets all become human ostriches.

Shrug.

They wont tell you because they are still working on 'that book'....
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Posted 1 Year, 8 Months ago #3
Gee Turyian,

Regarding the Empty Force Bullshit, is that why when the yi chuan guys met in Hong Kong they beat the shit out of the 'Kong Jing' guys from the USA?

How is that mongoloid wrassling you practice going? Start back on the meds again. Please.
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