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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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I know that people have posted about this combat system before but... Has anybody actually PURCHASED the videos or attended in person a SCARS course ?

A lot of people reply with comments like:

'It's B.S., dont worry about it'

But i have no idea if they have actually even SEEN the videos. So, if you have seen the SCARS videos or taken a course, please reply to

this. If you haven't even seen the videos and have just heard of the system by 'word of mouth' then please don't reply telling me the system is crap.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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SCARS is Jimmy Woo's Kung Fu San Soo. There are two groups of San Soo; the good ones and the bad ones. The good ones are very good. The bad ones are pretty bad. If it were me, I would look at the original stuff- not only is it better, it's cheaper and more available. If they tell you that you're going to learn rote techniques from the Big Book, you've got the bad ones. If they get together and pound the piss out of one another, they're the good ones.

Chas 'It's Fighting, not Folkdancing!' www.kilap.homepage.com/chas.mpg http://members.xoom.com/kilap/cane.html http://members.xoom.com/kilap/monkey.html http://www.kuntaosilat.com/ http://www.geocities.com/betawimuda/ http://www.paladin-press.com/
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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I own the HCS (Hostile Control System) tapes which were the 'civilian version' of the original SCARS video series, till Jerry got the rights back from TRS.

I have also seen private video footage of him training a SEAL team.

I don't buy the hype. Do a deja news search on SCARS to get more details on this system.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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SCARS is the same thing as Krav Magda, Defendo and all the other CQC stuff that purports to be original but is just dirty fighting. I don;t think I need to be taught that in a real fight bitting and hair pulling are an option. That Jerry Peterson guy,BTW, was a simple karateka that found a way to make a few bucks. They are all basicall JKD ripoffs... nothing new at all.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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I've seen it AND I've been doing the parent art since I was 13. SCARS is basically crap. But looks like magic to TKD folks.

Not only do I agree, but I'll go one step further and say that the bad ones out number the good.

If you do give it a try, mention the names Bill Hulsey or Frank Woolsy. If they recoil in horror, leave right then. If they smile and say come on in, be prepared to go home sore but a whole lot better. Bill Vigil is quite good, but his buddy Hopkins only virtue is that he's big.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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I spoke with an individual who works for the US Treasury Dept, and who has been to a SCARS training course. For background this individual trains in both Muay Thai and BJJ. His words were quote 'the system is exactly what it claims to be, a very quick and efficient way of seriously injuring or killing some one else. It is not a sport and there are no non-maiming or non-lethal moves.' I can't vouch for the tapes, personally I think that learning anything from tape is next to impossible.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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Dunno bout Defendo and all that, but Krav Maga was made by Imi Lichtenfield for those fighting for a country before Israel was formed. It is made from scratch solely to provide a good system that was fast to learn for soldiers. They didn't have much time for training as you might understand. Imi previously trained wrestling, boxing and such arts, but never had anything to do with JKD. In fact, the roots of KM are somewhat older than those of JKD. Krav Maga was later developed further after Israel was formed and now even has a curriculum available for civilians which is pretty popular in Israel. The army, police and special units also still use it and those responsible for KM (notably Eyal Yanilov) still work on developing it, so that it meets today's self defence needs. If a new type of attack is statistically being used a lot, Krav Maga will add a defence for it to the beginner curriculum - KM works closely with police and the army to figure out what is necessary to add.

A very good side of KM is that a beginner can become effective in a very short period of time. Krav Maga teaches all its instructors proper ways to teach the art based on modern research in teaching methods. Just like every high school teacher is taught how to make the students understand concepts, every KM instructor is taught how to explain why techniques are used and set up the way they are. After some intensive training, the student will be proficient in fighting another less technical fighter. Of course, if you want to fight other pro-fighters, you must spend a lot more time training, but most people need to learn how to survive attacks from others that are not pro-fighters. A rapist has probably not been training BJJ, Muay thai and JKD all his life. Tactics to avoid fights and attacks, using common objects for defence and drills to get the right mental attitude are also included in the system. It is pretty dirty fighting, I agree, but it's what you need to know and there's a LOT more to it than just learning to bite. The thing is that most people can't make themselves fight fiercely, ie. gauging at eyes, biting the throat and kicking to the groin. It's simply something the average civilized person does not want to do. So a lot of training is for developing more of an instinct for fighting and developing a mental state where you don't care for the opponent. The Krav Maga student learns to consider his assailant as an object, something that must be destroyed for one's own survival. It's rather cruel and insensitive, but it's what you need to survive someone who wants you dead.

Personally I like the system a lot

And remember: Just because you practice JKD and think it's a really good system, does not mean that every other good and effective system is a ripoff from JKD. It is possible for other people than Bruce to come up with good ways to defend oneself.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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I don't practice JKD.

Bruce never came up with much, he borrowed. You assume much about me.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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O hi, Gi, truth at last:

You don't. But sure you do some other MA? No? )))

I assume your f**king idiot.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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Actually its the billions in weapons that our taxdollars get them, that I don't doubt.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago
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Hi Gi,

You are LIER, mister.

Yes, and I don't like you.
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